On session with Renee Paquette, Dax recounts his problems with WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels.
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Renee Paquette’s newest guest on The Sessions is Dax Harwood. The former WWE and current AEW star discuss a variety of topics, from his childhood eating condition to seeking therapy for anxiety as an adult.
It’s the latest encouraging example of wrestlers sharing their personal tales to help erase the stigma associated with dealing with mental health issues. However, they are not the headlines generated by the FTR member.
Lots of headlines coming out of this interview. The most in-depth conversation of my career. Thanks Renee. https://t.co/O1OQVJ5y0X
— Uncle Dax FTR (@DaxFTR) February 22, 2022
The popular quotations are from the conclusion of the podcast and Dax’s recounting of his problems with WWE Hall of Famer Shawn Michaels. Paquette discusses Dax and Cash Wheeler’s connections with stars like Edge, Randy Orton, and Bret Hart. Then she just asks, teeing this up.“What’s your deal with HBK?”
Harwood says, “Obviously, as a kid, you either had to be a Bret or a Shawn guy. I’ve said this many a times, Bret has this — he’s over in a unique way. He’s not Hulk Hogan over, he’s not Steve Austin over. He’s not the biggest star in wrestling history. But the way he was over is so unique that it’s never been replicated. It may not ever. You can call me a mark if you want, I don’t give a damn. But I’m the m*********** who’s texting him on a weekly basis because we’re friends. As a kid, he made me feel a certain way.
“I think that’s why I wrestle, and Cash too, we wrestle the way we do. Because I love the cruiserweights and their stuff was incredible, but Bret made me feel a certain way. And I want to make people feel that way, too — emotionally, they’re never gonna love me the way they love Bret, but I want an emotional connection in every match we have, just like he had.
“And so, as a kid, I chose Bret over Shawn. And then, NXT, Shawn came on board, and he was a teacher. He was a big fan of me and Dan [Cash’s real first name]’s. We got injured. Dan broke his jaw. KENTA gave him the Go To Sleep, broke his jaw. Maybe two weeks later, I gave Sheamus a lifter. Tore my bicep. I went through a really bad phase then because I was like, ‘Man, this is not going to work for us. This is a run of bad luck.’
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“We came back to TV and then at Raw 25, we were booked to do the deal with Hunter & his friends where they just beat us up. And I was so upset because, for a lot of guys, it’s ‘Oh, it’s just a paycheck, who cares.’ But not to me. There’s a legacy I want to leave. But that happened, and I talked to Shawn. It was the first time we talked since the PC days, and I told him, ‘Man, this happened, tore my bicep. I went through a really dark period. I thought I was going to quit. But thankfully,’ just like I’ve told you, ‘I have the greatest wife in the world, and she has supported me, and she brought me out of this funk. She brought me out of a dark place, and I’m here now and I’m super happy.’
“And he said, ‘I was the same way. I was in this very dark spot. I met my wife, she’s beautiful, she pulled out of this dark spot, too.’ And I was like, ‘Ah, that’s so awesome.’ He said, ‘Look, you and your partner are way too talented to be doing what you’re doing tonight. You’re way too talented to stay at this point. Just keep your nose to the ground and keep grinding, and you’re going to get over.”
Harwood would continue saying, “‘Ah man Shawn, thank you so much.’ So we had this bonding moment. And then we got in front of his friends, X-Pac, and Hunter, and Billy, and Road Dogg, and Scott [Hall]. And as soon as we got in front of his friends, he started making fun of me, and making fun of my situation, and what happened with my bicep. And I was just like, man, I just poured my heart out to you, and as soon as we get in front of your friends, cause we’re going over them beating the shit out of us, you decide to take all that stuff and make fun of me about it.
“I never, ever forgot it, and as soon as we were done with the business of Raw, one person said thank you to us, and that was Sean Waltman. Everyone else was so cold to us, and treated us like we were just the s*** on the bottom of their shoes — except for Sean Waltman. I’ll never forget that for Shawn, and I hope there’s a day that comes where we can have a conversation, sit down, and I can ask him why he did that, and we can reconcile if he wants to.
“But yeah. If I love you, I love you. If I don’t, I don’t.”
